cleveland DMB wheel solution

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 17:29

I would like to know if anyone has any suggestions on converting my clevlend dmb wheels to something better or without the AD.
Does Clevland still make this wheel or a newer/ better soultion?
I have this on a 1946 7ac with an L16 conversion in Fl.

I have a crack in one wheel and I am looking for a replacement or a soultion to convert to something better.

Any suggestions or help would be great.
Ki Martin

Tim Juhl · Post by **Tim Juhl** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 21:22

Ki, You might find someone with some spare wheels, but they are hard to come by.

I ordered new cleveland wheels and hydraulic disc brakes from Safe Air Repair. They're pricey at over $2K, but they eliminate a lot of the problems associated with maintaining the older wheels.

Post by **joea** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 22:54

Ki,

Believe that there is a long wait for these new wheels from SAF, so if you are interested in them, plan WAY ahead!

Joe A

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 09:31

well I have a crack now so I guess I better start looking fir a replacement and then get my name on the list for later. I visited the website but it does not mention the conversion. I will call them on Monday.
Any suggestions on where to find a used wheel?
Ki
p.s., this is a great website!!!
Thanks for the super input.

Nathan K. Hammond · Post by **Nathan K. Hammond** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 18:19

You might try asking at the Luscome web pages. I think they have the same wheel as a champ.

As for the hold-up at SAR, that is coming from Cleveland, not Dan and Joe.

SAR has a couple different listing for brake kits but i'm not sure which is which. First SAR number is SAR4-1662-AC @ $2552 and the other is SAR8 @ $1419

They are well worth it as others have said. a neighbor has clevelands on his firebreathing O-200 champ and they are nice clean installation.

nkh

p.s. let us know what SAR tells you, if you can.

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 21:06

Thanks Nathan,
I will call tomorrow and update with the progress...
can you give me the Luscomb websites, as it took me two years to find this one.
Ki
ps.. I have a 0-200 with electric start and an L16 conversion..
Photo door and is a blast to fly!

LOWELL · Post by **LOWELL** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 22:21

You might use the wheels from a TriPacer. (PIPER). They are Hyd. brakes but the wheels carry no AD and you can use the drums too. A
lot of pacer planes are going to the late disc type.

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:23

Okay guys, I have a solution.
Safe Air does have the conversion but is waiting on Clevland.
Seems like about a 4 month wait. Joe faxed me a breakdown of the wheel I am having trouble with and I was able to call univair to get a wheel.
The new wheel is $1100 per wheel which will take 4 months to get.
Of course at that price it would be good to get the conversion for the extra $100 you get new brakes thrown in.
I called Cleveland and they said that if I replace the wheel the AD goes away. I called univair back and asked if they had the inner, outer, and brake drum in stock and the guy said sure we do. Yikes, just a guy that can read numbers but no logic eh?
So if I replace the inner and outer on both wheels the AD goes away because the new parts are past the AD and of course available at a fine retailer near you..

I will now break the wheel down and get the new parts.
Thanks for all the help and I hope this helps anyone in the future with my same problem.
Ki in FL

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:07

Lowell is correct. The Piper tripacer wheel has the same type certificate number as the champ wheel but the Piper wheel is rated at 1500# rather than the Champs 1000# rating. A direct swap but no AD. Use your Champ brakes on the Piper wheel.

Dennis

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:26

so would anyone know how I would get the tri pacer wheel numbers or suppliers?
sounds like a good move...

Post by **joea** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 21:49

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Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 09:37

Before buying, verify that BOTH wheels have "TCN 134" and a rating of "1500#" stamped on the outer wheel half. A while back, I bought two wheels off ebay from an Earl Allen of California who advertised and verified by email that the wheels were "TCN134" and #1500. Only one, however, fit the description. So look closely. The 1500# wheel also comes on a Stinson.

Dennis

Mikek · Post by **Mikek** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:37

Which half do you need? inter - outer might have one. you can buy or rent till you get the newer style.

mknemeyer@erinet.com

Mike Kne

Dwain Ideus · Post by **Dwain Ideus** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 18:33

Floatin_around wrote:I would like to know if anyone has any suggestions on converting my clevlend dmb wheels to something better or without the AD.
Does Clevland still make this wheel or a newer/ better soultion?
I have this on a 1946 7ac with an L16 conversion in Fl.

I have a crack in one wheel and I am looking for a replacement or a soultion to convert to something better.

Any suggestions or help would be great.
Ki Martin

You can buy the wheels or halves at Univair.

Floatin_around · Post by **Floatin_around** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 20:54

I ordered two halves from univair and they sent me the wrong piece for the inside. The part number was incorrect and when I took the wheel off it did not match as well. They say about a 4 month wait on the inner part with the drum. The guys on the phone really are clueless...
I called the guy from short wing piper and he said he sold them for $175.
Someone got a good deal.
If anyone had a 1500 pond wheel with a drum style brake.. feel free to contact me.
as well I am open to any other suggestions.
Ki in Fl

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