xwind landings

roger · Post by **roger** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 19:27

Does anyone know if there is a Demonstrated Crosswimd Component published for the 7AC? Thanks, Roger

Mikek · Post by **Mikek** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 20:47

roger wrote:Does anyone know if there is a Demonstrated Crosswimd Component published for the 7AC? Thanks, Roger

Have not seen anything for the 7AC, but the Army Air Forces 'Operation and Flight Instructions for the L-3 Series the states:

Section IV Special Instructions

1. b-1. "Do Not Fly when the Surface Winds at Sea Level Exceed (25) miles per hour.

Will check the L-16 Manual for any notes next.

Manual no. is:

T. O. 01-145DA-1

Mike Kne

Mikek · Post by **Mikek** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 21:43

[quote="Mikek
Will check the L-16 Manual for any notes next.

Did not find much in the L-16 manual reprint I have. They do show on the take-off chart, the data for "0-wind" and then data for "30 kts winds", which makes me strongly believe that over 30 kts is the Manual stated limit. OMO

L-3 Over 25 mph
L-16 Over 30 Kts

Mike Kne

Nathan K. Hammond · Post by **Nathan K. Hammond** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 22:10

At 30 knots, I'll just land across the runway!

Maybe have a roll out of 20 feet.

nkh

visitor · Post by **visitor** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:57

For CAR3 all they had to demonstrate was .2 Vso. Remember, that is the 90 crosswind component NOT the actual wind. That puts it down in the under 10miles per hour category. Sure, they will handle more than that but when you start trying to work the maximums, you are out of the envelope and "on your own"! Pilot proficiency has a lot to do with it as well as landing gear condition, brakes and how correct the rigging is. CAR3 called for normal pilot proficiency also and what does that mean?

jerrymjr · Post by **jerrymjr** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:14

The airplane was certified under CAR 4a which has no specific requirement. Typically we say 17 kts on the great great grand kids of the 7AC. But then, they are much chubbier airplanes.

Its a misleading line in the sand as conditions, skill, and technique are all over the map. Its a little generic of a limit when you have an airplane that can slip effectively and wheel land nicely.

Post by **joea** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 20:08

The real limit is not what you can safely land the plane in but what are your personall limits as far as being able to taxi the plane to a tie down? The number of planes flipped over while trying to get to a tie-down shows that this can be limiting as well.

Many times I can get the airplane on the ground just fine but the wind is so strong that I need wing walkers to safely get to a tie down.

JoeA

mike newall · Post by **mike newall** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 21:02

I have operated in 20kts across the strip in a 7AC. Hadn't flown for ages, beautiful winter day but windy. Took off diagonally with no problem, landed the same. The strip operator took exception to me flying in those conditions as it would show a poor display to low houred pilots........ Sorry, horns out, I then did 2 circuits with takeoff and landing straight down the strip - no problem.

He wasn't happy !

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