41 65ca cowl questions?

rob · Post by **rob** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 14:53

mike I'm in the final stages of getting my 65ca airworthy again. your not the only one with the cowl and the strut problem. first Pete Plumb from woodwing specialty has the pieces from one of my front struts and the drawings i got from john houser he is making a jig to build the ca and lb struts the price im sure will be less then univair but thats between you and him here is pete's contact info
Pete Plumb
661-391-9464
woodwingdoc@yahoo.com
and the cowl if you decide to go with the 7ca 11ac firewall forward i have a 337 that your ia can have to help it go through if you have anymore questions give me a call
rob
309-945-5073

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 09:54

Mike, I also have 1941 pre-war --31892 with a 11AC cowling. It does run hot in the summer, but I think it is more to do with baffling problems.

This talk about different lift struts for the 1941 model, has me wondering if I have the proper ones installed on my plane. One of the previous owners told me back in the 70"s that a friend borrowed the plane and landed on a road, hitting a road marker which damaged the lift strut.
The guy replaced them with a set, that he said would work.
The former owner told me that he still has the damaged set.

Post by **joea** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:00

Richard,

Get the blueprint of the struts and make sure that they are the correct ones and in good condition.

If you can find the blueprint number, there is a good chance that I may have the blueprint on our master list that the NAA has. Can email it to you but need the print number first.

Joe A

Paul Agaliotis · Post by **Paul Agaliotis** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:28

Todd has some information on his site about the pre-war struts.
http://www.aeronca.com/k/images/unknown_strut1.jpg
Paul

Mackb20 · Post by **Mackb20** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 09:08

Hello guys,

First thanks for all the wonderful information.

Rob it was great talking to you in person. Sure beets typing! I will get those pic's to you asap.

Rich I would like to see a picture of your old damaged strut and the set on the plane now. Could they possibly be from a Taylorcraft or later Aeronca etc.?

Paul I look forward to chatting with you to see how your progress is with fabricating these struts. I have pretty much resigned my self to the fact that locating an original single outlet exhaust, baffles, and carburetor box will be very costly.

It amazes me how much of this stuff is made from unobtainium. So, I will most likely offer my original cowl for sale or exchange for a 7 or 11 ac cowl as my exhaust, baffles, engine mount, carburetor box, and air filter element are all new and look to be from an 11 ac.

Maybe you guys know how to make a deal like this happen so I can make some prograss over the winter months.

Thanks and blue skies

Mike

Captgrumps · Post by **Captgrumps** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:29

The print numbers for the steel struts for the 65CA are--

wing front steel strut 4-255
wing rear steel strut 4-259
wing brace strut section 1-1721
lower strut fuselge fitting 1-915
strap reinforcing lower strut 1-916
front strut connceting to rear strut plate 1-918
tube upper strut fitting 1-919
section wing brace strut 1-713
end wing rear strut adjustment 1-53
section wing brace strut 1-713
insert rear strut lower 1-1387
tube upper rear strut fitting 1-917
tube upper front strut fitting 1-919

All the above drawings are listed as 65CA.

In s correspondence from John Houser he told me that with the prewar aluminum strut material scarce that most folks were changing to the 1941 65CA steel struts if they had to do wing work.

Hope this is of some help and not confusing.

May your Thanksgiving be a blessed one...

Doug

Mackb20 · Post by **Mackb20** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:05

Doug, This is awesome! I hope to get these drawings and see if it is something I can fabricate in my shop.

Thanks again Mike

Post by **joea** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 14:11

Mike,

Did you get the drawings that you needed? If not pls let me know.

Joe

Mackb20 · Post by **Mackb20** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 18:21

Joe, not as of yet. I was looking into them, but did not print any. Some are much more detailed than others from what I see. I wonder if this strut attach bracket was a casting that was machined. or a piece of billet material that was machined

Thanks Mike

Post by **joea** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 19:31

So you have found the drawings on the internet at Todd Trainor's website?

If you cannot find the drawings to download, pls email me and I can send the ones you do not have to you by email.

Thx,

Joe

Mackb20 · Post by **Mackb20** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 22:00

Joe I have pretty much looked at the available drawings @ Todd's site. Any drawings with a 9 in them (i.e. 915,916 etc.) are in a status called prep and I cannot view them. I believe 1-1387 is also just plain unavailable but, rather important in the grand scheme of things. I guess I will just have to ride it out.
Thanks Mike

P.S. picked up a set of Tri-Pacer struts scavenged from an aircraft that went to the scrap yard. Maybe I can rig them to hold up the wing temporarily. (or not) Oh well I guess the fun will be in trying. The fun for me is in the project it really gets the inventive/ creative powers in my brain to stay nimble.

Post by **joea** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 22:14

If you need any, please let me know and will see if I have them on my master list of drawings. We at the NAA have drawings that Todd does not have, so if you need something pls advise.