gas.....again

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Post by Roger Anderson »

Don Eide wrote:Here is another story.
10-31-83 My Cessna 182 with an 0-470 was authorized by EAA STC
to use auto fuel..
For no good reason that I can think of, my personal opinion is that auto fuel is fine up through about O-320s. Above that, I think you should use avgas. That's my non scientific opinion.
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Post by Dennis »

I have put over 1000 hours on an 0540 Lycoming burning only auto fuel. Its not the size of the engine that counts, its the compression ratio.

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Post by gusc »

The problem with Don's story is there is absolutely no proof that auto fuel caused the engine problem - period!

Just because it happened while he was using auto fuel does not mean the fuel was the cause. It sounds to me as if he had some water in the fuel or it could have been some debris in the carb - it could have been any one of a dozen things.

His story is similar to some scare stories printed in the Lycoming newsletter, some were horror stories but none came close to proving any cause by auto fuel. This stuff goes on and on and on.

There is no horsepower limit for auto fuel. Auto fuel is better now than 80/87 was when most of those old engines were designed. Many people use auto fuel in PW R985, 450 hp engines every day!!

The only problem I can see with today's auto fuel is that it is not stable so you can't keep it for a long time, fresh fuel is the answer to most problems.

It is time to get off this sort of nonsense.
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Post by MikeB »

Now that we've beat this "horse to death" may I suggest we start another on Champs vs Chiefs, high wing vs low wing, multi vs straight weight oil, Lycoming vs Continental (or you pick the subject :? :? ).

I did go out this morning and put about 45 minutes on the CHAMP with two wheel landings. Beautiful morning with clear skys and light winds.

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Post by SFC Hiatt »

When I saw "Gas again" as the topic I was afraid one of you old guys forget to eat enough salad!!
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Post by jc pacquin »

What really gives me gas is the billions missing in Iraq! Loaded palletts of 100 dollar bills flown to Iraq and just.......missing. A 700 million dollar American embassy, still not finished, poorly built, lots of mistakes. 3 trillion so far and counting. Meanwhile the V.A. is underfunded, vets not getting correct care and they should get better care than corrupt congressmen, who incidentally have lifetime excellent care, THE BEST! Now we are going to pay for deregulation of wall street! and I'm "perturbed about gas for my airplane. My prioritys are wrong!
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Post by Dennis »

I went turkey hunting this morning. Looking for my second one to close out the season for me.

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There's lots of turkeys up here in DC that need thinning. :wink:
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Post by joea »

WWhunter wrote:There's lots of turkeys up here in DC that need thinning. :wink:
Totally agree. We need to "thin out the bunch of them of them out" and send them all home. Get some fresh ones and institute term limits on every office up there!
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Post by jc pacquin »

Joe be correct! Run em outa there! But back to more serious things, mainly Kellys L-19. I am very partial to them and wish I had one! What a great airplane to fly around in, short field landings, takeoffs, horsing it up quickly and be GONE! Ahhhh....what a great way to go! The tail was borrowed from a 195 and that looks good too! " Oh to slip the surly bonds of earth, and dance the skies on laughter-silvered wings" (Wish I owned it!) (with apologies to John Gillespie Magee Jr. RCAF). to continue: "Ive topped the windswept heights with easy grace, where never lark or even eagle flew; and, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand, and touched the face of God. (High Flight) A letter to his mother, shortly after, he was killed during flight training in Canada.JC
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Post by gusc »

Dennis,

There are still a few turkeys left, I don't think you made much of a dent in the population.
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Post by Holcombe »

There will never be a day without turkeys, or MMO, or Chief owners who think they go half as fast as Champs.
However, we are a small target in a big wide world, and we have planes that we can own and afford to fly.
And with Global Warming comming we should see some good weather soon.
Tail winds are a "Good Thing"
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