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New LSA Champ manufacured ?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 17:52
by rudymantel
Does anyone know- is there a new Light Sport Champ being manufactured ?
BTW, I'm still searching for a CCM or equivalent that will go LSA with an electric system and starter-
Thanks,
Rudy

Re: New LSA Champ manufacured ?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 18:17
by Mikek
rudymantel wrote:Does anyone know- is there a new Light Sport Champ being manufactured ?
BTW, I'm still searching for a CCM or equivalent that will go LSA with an electric system and starter-
Thanks,
Rudy
Yes
http://www.amerchampionaircraft.com/

http://www.amerchampionaircraft.com/new ... pspecs.htm

Mikek

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 08:55
by rudymantel
Mike, thanks-
Rudy

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 09:46
by joea
Rudy,

You are not far from Lakeland where Sun and Fun is being held RIGHT NOW!

The new LSA Champ is on display over there, so hope you can get over there and take a look or possibly even get a flight in one.

http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/

Joe

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:35
by Nathan K. Hammond
Acutally they've got 3 of the new Champs on display.

I'll get some pics loaded shortly

nkh

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 00:15
by Nathan K. Hammond
Image Image Image Image

They later put a set of wheel pants on the green one that made it look sharp!

nkh

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 04:46
by Paul Agaliotis
Great pictures Nathan,
I wish the best of luck to ACA with their new model. I think this retro craze will be with us for a while.
What prop are they using on the green one ?
Paul

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:29
by Nathan K. Hammond
It's a Sensenich with Urethane leading edges. Looks really nice, but the leading edge can't handle precip at all.

They said a third Champ was coming in, but I left before it arrived. I think it was Black and Gold, with the same layout as the green one.

nkh

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:38
by joea
Nathan K. Hammond wrote:It's a Sensenich with Urethane leading edges. Looks really nice, but the leading edge can't handle precip at all.

nkh
What is sensenich thinking when they are sending out props that cannot take precip?

While I do not look for rain to fly into, there are times that you cannot avoid it and last thing I want to do is to send the prop back every 6 months to be overhauled, especially at the prices that they charge.

Joe

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 19:43
by Nathan K. Hammond
Maybe I over stated the problem. It's not like the leading edge is going to wear away after flying threw one rain shower, but it certainly wont last like the old ones.

Let me put it this way, when you are going cross country and encounter a line of rain with good visibility, you'd continue on with an old prop and land with a Urethane edged prop.

But I agree with you Joe.

nkh

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 19:48
by joea
If I were spending what they want for the new Champ and it had that prop on it, I would specify a metal one instead.

Not going to land the plane rather than fly through a rain shower, sorry but thats poor engineering.

Wonder if we can get Jerry to comment on this? I really hope that its not true.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 20:02
by Nathan K. Hammond
It would perform better with a metal prop. Or so has been my experience.

nkh

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 01:53
by Carl Prather
After seeing it the pictures, I'm glad the ACA is producing some version of the Champ. We need more planes in the sky. Hopefully, they will try a Rotax or a Jabiru again to shave some weight off. Further, maybe ACA will rethink at least change the rear glass to give a more orignial look and put in another 4 or 6 gallons of fuel, possibly in a header tank. Make them (reasonably priced) options? As much as I like the oleo gear look, it's just cheaper and better to use the spring steel gear.

I'm trying think of the plane a very good first cut about to get better. 62 years and the almighty Champ still gets another redux!

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:31
by Paul Agaliotis
Nathan,
I understand the statement about the leading edge. Wood props and rain dont mix.
When we get a chance to sit down and share a bottle of Jack, Ill tell you about my KCA and Fahlin wood prop. Wood props are never the same even if you only get, near, a thunder storm in the Cascades.
Paul

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 14:28
by Nathan K. Hammond
I look forward to hearing that story Paul!

nkh