Terry's 1946 7AC Champ N2096E

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:17

Hey all, I decided to make a master post where I would seek assistance and information instead of many different post that may clutter up the pages. I hope this works better for everyone.

Currently I am attempting to install all the throttle linkage and having purchased a "basket-case", I am having to dig through buckets of parts to locate what I think would be the part in question.

First, does the origional throttle control friction spring go on the front or back throtle lever?

Does anyone have an exploded view or a photo of the assembly of the throttle levers that I could tell how they are suppose to be assembled?

Next, Installing the front left inter panel (that covers the throttles), is there something that bolts to the front of the panel to make it more rigid or does it just float?

I could not locate photos on the site regarding this, if you have photos that you would like to share, you can post or email them to me and I would be greatful.

Thanks for your welcoming remarks on other post and thanks for inadvance for the time you take to answer, give advice, and or just support me.

Terry B.

Post by **joea** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:26

Terry,

I do not have a Champ so cannot help much but welcome to the group.

The photos are with each individual thread, not in one grouping. Please look in the "restoration" section at various threads and you will see a wealth of information.

Joe A

Paul Agaliotis · Post by **Paul Agaliotis** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:54

Terry,
I would buy a service manual from the NAA to help you with the assembly. It has exploded views on a lot of the areas.
The throttles, I believe, use leather washers for the friction. The spring you have, if it's a round thing with fingers, is for the trim handle friction.
Where are you located? There members of the NAA scattered across the nation. Some of us can't go back to some states, and some of us can't leave the state we are in.
There is enough resources on this site to help you along.
Paul

drjeff · Post by **drjeff** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 13:41

Paul,
I have the service manuals for the L16 and was looking this up last night myself. The drawings they have don't really show the details very good. They only list the parts required. It really doesn't tell you what goes on what side or the other. The print that I found on Todd's CD didn't show it either. The print number was something aroung 7-499 or 7-599. If you have a different print number that show more detail please let me know too!
Thanks,
Jeff

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 13:44

Thanks all, in regards to my questions, I have searched and noticed some photos that are helpful.

As far as where I am located,

Terry Bledsoe
Buda Texas
(South side of Austin Texas)

*Thanks Jeff, you beat me to it. I have the service manual for the L16 as well as for the champ. There is a lot of very good information in both of them but not what I am looking for. Also have the CD that you are speaking of with great drawings, but they too do not have what I seek. (The journey is more rewarding than the destination...so I have been told)*

jkvincent · Post by **jkvincent** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 17:54

Terry,
Welcome aboard, this is a great site.
I presently have my left forward panel off, I'll be at the hangar Friday
and would be happy to take photos, if you still need them let me know.

Jim
(Clear Lake City, south of Houston)

Let me know if you ever make any Fly-ins around here,
there's a big one this weekend (near Lufkin Tx.)
http://www.reklawflyin.com/
scroll down their site for a video, ...cool.

MikeB · Post by **MikeB** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 18:16

Here you go Terry.
Don't know exactly what you need but this shows the throttle set up on my L16. I actually have the friction (finger) washers on the both the front and the rear throttle shaft posts with the leather washers between the throttle arm and the backing plate if I remember correctly. Don't know if this is exactly right but it seems to work OK.

Regarding the front of the left panel. I think it isn't really secured. At least it isn't on my Champ.

Mike Berg

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:28

Hopefully someone will move the other post related to this here.

Sorry about posting as new topic thread

Terry

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 21:31

Hope this works ...

http://s645.photobucket.com/albums/uu172/Champ1946/

Trying to learn how to do this. I will try to keep it updated as my wife and I continue our first rebuild.

Terry

Paul Agaliotis · Post by **Paul Agaliotis** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 21:40

Terry,
I just paid a visit to Kingsbury in December. I had a very nice guided tour by a gentleman from Canada that winters in Texas. I like the fact that they fly their aircraft. I believe some of the aircraft belong to the Freemans. I bought a Rearwin Sportser 9000KR from them years ago when they were in Oxnard.
Paul

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 21:47

That was John that you are talking about, He is headed back north this week. He is rebuilding a FWD for the museum.

We are currently repairing and recovering our Thomas Morse Scout and building a second one along side it.

I am learning alot helping there and I am on the board of directors for the museum.

Thanks for checking us out.

As far as my champ, hope to trial fit the envelope soon.

Terry

Terry B. · Post by **Terry B.** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 20:47

http://s645.photobucket.com/albums/uu172/Champ1946/

In the link above, the last picture is a scaned image our of a book called "Aeronca's Golden Age" . In the lower picture you can see the inclinometer that is mounted on the dash below the compass card.

You can double click that image to enlarge it.

What I would like to know is if anyone knows the brand / model number and/or (I know it is too much to ask) where I may purchase one similar to that one. Wag Aero or A.S.S (aircraft spruce and speciality) have a few, bun not like this. I know it is not necessary, just fly by the seat of your pants, but I would still like one.

Thanks

Terry B.

james gevay · Post by **james gevay** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 21:37

Terry these two pictures should show you how the throttle parts go together.
The first shows how the rear throttle was installed in my Champ. You can see that the nut is inboard with the finger washer underneath it. The second shows the exploded view.

The bolt inserts from the outboard side towards the inside of the fuselage with nut ending on the cabin side. I think the large oblong washer is made out of leather. I'm not sure if I will look for a piece and cut one out or I might find a large rubber washer and try that instead.

The last pic show the 3 kinds of slip skid indicators that I've seen. The big 6" one on the top is currently sold at different places. That was the one installed on my Champ when it was flying.
I think that you can still get the smallest one on the bottom also, it's made by Reiker. The middle one is the oldest one and probably the one I'll use in my Champ because I like the looks.

I found both of the two smaller ones on E-bay and took them apart and rebuilt them both.
I think the slip skid in the factory pictures have some kind of housing or cover over the instrument.

As for the front of the left side panel, I think you could come up with some kind spacer or stand off for a brace under the front edge and no one would know the difference.

james gevay · Post by **james gevay** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 21:57

I forgot to tell you I had finger washers on both throttles and the overhead trim.
The upper connecting rod has the bolt coming through from the outside to the inside also.
If you need more pictures, I have some more of different assembles.

National Aeronca Association Bulletin Board

Terry's 1946 7AC Champ N2096E

Terry's 1946 7AC Champ N2096E

Brake Cables

Thomas Morse Scouts

Inclinometer