Enjoyed the posts and the video, Joe !
Isn't that a wonderful feeling when the wings take hold and you are actually OUT of there !?!
Like "Money from home"!
Good job!
Bill
Homer,Alaska
How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Bill,
It was a lot of fun and we were all glad to help rescue the plane.
As well Mike send me some more photos and will be posting them shortly.
Joe
It was a lot of fun and we were all glad to help rescue the plane.
As well Mike send me some more photos and will be posting them shortly.
Joe
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Way to go, Joe! I bet that was one of your better-than-average Tuesdays.
I've always wondered what good quads were. Now I admit they might have some redeeming qualities. At first I thought you were going to have to haul the airplane out of there with it.
You'll be the first one I think of if I get stuck somewhere in my Champ.
Nicely done.
Jim
I've always wondered what good quads were. Now I admit they might have some redeeming qualities. At first I thought you were going to have to haul the airplane out of there with it.
You'll be the first one I think of if I get stuck somewhere in my Champ.
Nicely done.
Jim
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Finally getting time to add some more photos
Grant starting the runway.
Getting closer!
Almost there! You can see there was not much margin between the landing gear and our freshly made runway. It could have been a bit wider but we were concerned about the wind getting even stronger.
Mike propping the plane. Did not want to start at first.
Finally running!
On the way back to the trucks Grant and Mike found John's footsteps out. Sure looks lonely...
Grant starting the runway.
Getting closer!
Almost there! You can see there was not much margin between the landing gear and our freshly made runway. It could have been a bit wider but we were concerned about the wind getting even stronger.
Mike propping the plane. Did not want to start at first.
Finally running!
On the way back to the trucks Grant and Mike found John's footsteps out. Sure looks lonely...
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Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
GREAT pictures, GREAT story! I really appreciate the story and the pictures. Congratulations on saving a good looking Aeronca! JP
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
By the way,for those who don't know,this area was used in WWII by General George Patton to train the troops for Africa
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/needles/patton.html
Mike
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/needles/patton.html
Mike
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Hey Joe, Grant and Mike: I wanted to publicly thank you for your rescue of Tacky. An awesome job on a tricky mission. I was so concerned when I saw the takeoff run: it took about 25 seconds to get off the ground. Normally that would be about a 6 or 7 second run.
I have since gone out to Blythe (last Saturday morning) and retrieved the Chief, flying it back against some fairly strong winds, but all's well that ends well.
Thank you, Joe, Grant and Mike, and thank you everyone on the NAA board and on the f-AA email list for your support, implicit or explicit.
John Rodkey
I have since gone out to Blythe (last Saturday morning) and retrieved the Chief, flying it back against some fairly strong winds, but all's well that ends well.
Thank you, Joe, Grant and Mike, and thank you everyone on the NAA board and on the f-AA email list for your support, implicit or explicit.
John Rodkey
---=== John 'Poobah' Rodkey - N9361E ===---
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
By the way, on the subject of prime...
Tacky doesn't have a primer. Seems to have been taken off in 1976 in the previous rebuild.
The Stromberg doesn't have a throttle pump, so pushing in the throttle doesn't prime it either.
I prime it by closing the throttle completely, turning off the switch, then pulling through 3 to 5 blades.
It almost always starts on the first blade once throttle is cracked and switches to both (I have 2 Slick impulse mags).
If it's hot and you turn it off by the magnetos while the throttle is closed or nearly closed, it will often flood.
If I'm needing to do a hot turnaround fueling, I will leave magnetos on, pull mixture full lean, and advance the throttle. At about 1/2 throttle, 1500 rpm or so, the engine will strangle itself and die. Very important to follow procedure here and immediately turn off the switch, close the throttle and return mixture to rich prior to leaving the cockpit, else it could surprise you later.
When the mixture-induced killing procedure is used, I don't have problems restarting the engine.
John
Tacky doesn't have a primer. Seems to have been taken off in 1976 in the previous rebuild.
The Stromberg doesn't have a throttle pump, so pushing in the throttle doesn't prime it either.
I prime it by closing the throttle completely, turning off the switch, then pulling through 3 to 5 blades.
It almost always starts on the first blade once throttle is cracked and switches to both (I have 2 Slick impulse mags).
If it's hot and you turn it off by the magnetos while the throttle is closed or nearly closed, it will often flood.
If I'm needing to do a hot turnaround fueling, I will leave magnetos on, pull mixture full lean, and advance the throttle. At about 1/2 throttle, 1500 rpm or so, the engine will strangle itself and die. Very important to follow procedure here and immediately turn off the switch, close the throttle and return mixture to rich prior to leaving the cockpit, else it could surprise you later.
When the mixture-induced killing procedure is used, I don't have problems restarting the engine.
John
---=== John 'Poobah' Rodkey - N9361E ===---
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
John,
We were all glad to help and glad it turned out the way it did.
The biggest problem with the starting was the "nut behind the wheel" (me!) who was not familiar with your procedures!
Mike had propped you in CG, so he knew your routine but none of us knew if you had a primer, acc pump on the carb or what, nor how you had figured out the best way to start the engine. After 3-4 blades it worked fine and all is well but I was really "green" in the cockpit looking for things that are in my plane and not in yours!
Hope "Tacky" is happy at home and you have gotten all the mud off of it!
Joe
We were all glad to help and glad it turned out the way it did.
The biggest problem with the starting was the "nut behind the wheel" (me!) who was not familiar with your procedures!
Mike had propped you in CG, so he knew your routine but none of us knew if you had a primer, acc pump on the carb or what, nor how you had figured out the best way to start the engine. After 3-4 blades it worked fine and all is well but I was really "green" in the cockpit looking for things that are in my plane and not in yours!
Hope "Tacky" is happy at home and you have gotten all the mud off of it!
Joe
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
You are welcome John ! Yup, I remembered the 5 blades,but did not know your procedure inside the
cockpit,but I am also a former Chief pilot with an armstrong starter,so your bird was in the best of hands with our crew
It was a real pleasure doing this little trip and I think its all about karma.
I hope,that you will make it out again in October for the EAA Copperstate Fly-in and next years Cactus Fly-in.
Cheers
Mike
cockpit,but I am also a former Chief pilot with an armstrong starter,so your bird was in the best of hands with our crew
It was a real pleasure doing this little trip and I think its all about karma.
I hope,that you will make it out again in October for the EAA Copperstate Fly-in and next years Cactus Fly-in.
Cheers
Mike
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Great story, I am very happy for you that all turned out well, it worried me when Joe posted his picture at the beginning of the story. 
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tacky"
Wheeler, thanks and glad to see you surface again!
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tack
Where does the time go ....joea wrote:Wheeler, thanks and glad to see you surface again!
I've been busy with work and such and not much time for the internet.
I'm getting ready to sell my Champ and a potential customer and I were just speaking of you today.
Hope all is well with you and your plane!
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tack
Joe:
Thanks for posting this story, Sounds just like an Alaska story, except for desert and roads. By the way, did you get the box I mailed to you a couple of months back with those bladders?
Dik N1441H
Queen of the Berry Patch
Thanks for posting this story, Sounds just like an Alaska story, except for desert and roads. By the way, did you get the box I mailed to you a couple of months back with those bladders?
Dik N1441H
Queen of the Berry Patch
Re: How three of us spent our Tuesday or "The rescue of Tack
Dik,
Sorry about that, had been waiting to thank you after I had time to get someone to look at them.
I was at a FAA maintenance symposium last week and the fuel cell guys where there. Turns out that your fuel cells were some of the original 1948 or so Goodyear Pliocell models that were installed in the plane when it was new.
They are not recommending that they be overhauled (in fact some places will not do it) but am glad to have them as spares as we now have 4 Sedans in the Phoenix area!
Thanks for your help and hope that the Queen is making good progress!
Take care,
Joe A
Sorry about that, had been waiting to thank you after I had time to get someone to look at them.
I was at a FAA maintenance symposium last week and the fuel cell guys where there. Turns out that your fuel cells were some of the original 1948 or so Goodyear Pliocell models that were installed in the plane when it was new.
They are not recommending that they be overhauled (in fact some places will not do it) but am glad to have them as spares as we now have 4 Sedans in the Phoenix area!
Thanks for your help and hope that the Queen is making good progress!
Take care,
Joe A