First Time Aeronca Owner
First Time Aeronca Owner
I have just purchased a 1960 7EC. I am excited and nervous. I will flying it from Minn to Florida after the Pre buy/Annual. I hope that this site will give me the info to maintain it and look for some fly ins
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Paul Agaliotis
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Capair,
Welcome to the group. There is a substantial knowledge base in the NAA. I'm sure everyone will be excited to follow your progress in the ownership of the 7EC. Is it an Aeronca built or Champion? Joining the NAA is a good way to assist in providing the resources needed to keep these fine aircraft flying.
Paul
Welcome to the group. There is a substantial knowledge base in the NAA. I'm sure everyone will be excited to follow your progress in the ownership of the 7EC. Is it an Aeronca built or Champion? Joining the NAA is a good way to assist in providing the resources needed to keep these fine aircraft flying.
Paul
Mailing Adress : Paul Agaliotis 2060 E. San Martin, San Martin,Calif. 95046
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Roger Anderson
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Welcome. As Paul said, you're at the right place. Also, there's another site that is also excellent. It is an email based discussion group maintained by a very nice guy, Chief owner, in Calif. A lot of the folks on this site are also over there. If you want a very quick answer, you can usually get it in several minutes. Be aware that many of the folks on it have been there a long time and it gets chatty, generating dozens of messages a day, and sometimes drifting off topic. So it's best to dedicate an email address just ot it. Also, you can get the messages in digest form if you prefer. Also, there's always , "select all, delete" available. Info is at the following. roger
http://mail.westmont.edu:80/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
http://mail.westmont.edu:80/mailman/listinfo/aeronca
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james gevay
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Carl Prather
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New Owner
Congratulations, Capair! Not that any of our opinions are biased in any fashion, but I think there is good cause to believe you have a fine plane that awaits you!
I agree with the others, join the NAA and sign up for Rodkey's group. (Edit, thats the link to the group Roger added above, Joe A Admin)
Have a blast in your new ship!
Carl Prather
I agree with the others, join the NAA and sign up for Rodkey's group. (Edit, thats the link to the group Roger added above, Joe A Admin)
Have a blast in your new ship!
Carl Prather
Thanks
I am not sure of Aeronca or Champion, how do you tell....I am leaving from OCO Oceola WI...Any help in flight planning would help. i hate to admit that i am a jet jocky and have not done VFR CC of this lenght in 20 years.....i thank all for the warm welcome and am looking foward to all the help from you...
Grass
any thoughts on finding grass strips on my trip down t Fla..
A name please?
First off, you will need a good GPS. I just did the same type of flight and used a borrowed Garmin GPS-496 (still borrowing it in fact!) that made the trip very easy. Was purchased as a "backup" for our Challenger and never used, so it works well in an Aeronca.
Get something like this (a descent GPS) and get complete up to date data in it (Jepps sells updates for most GPS units for $35 or so) and go from there. You want to know where the restricted airspace is, and the GPS covers your rear here.
Then get some sectional maps and a long piece of wood. Tape the maps together for a bit and use the ruler to draw out a line between your two airports. Then start looking for airports with a minimum of 2 runways and hopefully uncontrolled. I did 100 mile legs until I was comfortable with the airplane, then expand it out to what works with the airports.
Joe A
First off, you will need a good GPS. I just did the same type of flight and used a borrowed Garmin GPS-496 (still borrowing it in fact!) that made the trip very easy. Was purchased as a "backup" for our Challenger and never used, so it works well in an Aeronca.
Get something like this (a descent GPS) and get complete up to date data in it (Jepps sells updates for most GPS units for $35 or so) and go from there. You want to know where the restricted airspace is, and the GPS covers your rear here.
Then get some sectional maps and a long piece of wood. Tape the maps together for a bit and use the ruler to draw out a line between your two airports. Then start looking for airports with a minimum of 2 runways and hopefully uncontrolled. I did 100 mile legs until I was comfortable with the airplane, then expand it out to what works with the airports.
Joe A
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Nathan K. Hammond
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Howdy Cap,
There's lots of on-line flight planners; I use www.airnav.com and www.navmonster.com
Airnav is nice because you can plan by fuel i.e. cheap fuel, fuel legs etc...
Navmonster is nice because it can show all the airports left/right of the intended path.
And both have several other nice features.
Here's a link to all the grass strips that have public use fuel...
http://www.supercub.org/photopost/data/ ... el_111.pdf
Enjoy the flight, long cross country's at low level are great. I highly suggest you plan the trip across a couple days so you can enjoy the local flair. Rough River State Park (2I3) in Kentucky is a great place to make an overnight stop. The restraunt, lodge and Par-3 are all about 25 yards from the ramp, or there are shower houses and spots for primative camping.
Or you've got the Moonlight BBQ in Owensboro, KY for the best BBQ in Kentucky. Taxi to MillionAir and ask for directions and a crew car.
I use a 496 like Joe and that little thing is great. It gives me weather, xm radio, the AOPA airport directory (which is great when looking for an airport with food or hotel close) and all the public and private airports.
Have fun!
nkh
There's lots of on-line flight planners; I use www.airnav.com and www.navmonster.com
Airnav is nice because you can plan by fuel i.e. cheap fuel, fuel legs etc...
Navmonster is nice because it can show all the airports left/right of the intended path.
And both have several other nice features.
Here's a link to all the grass strips that have public use fuel...
http://www.supercub.org/photopost/data/ ... el_111.pdf
Enjoy the flight, long cross country's at low level are great. I highly suggest you plan the trip across a couple days so you can enjoy the local flair. Rough River State Park (2I3) in Kentucky is a great place to make an overnight stop. The restraunt, lodge and Par-3 are all about 25 yards from the ramp, or there are shower houses and spots for primative camping.
Or you've got the Moonlight BBQ in Owensboro, KY for the best BBQ in Kentucky. Taxi to MillionAir and ask for directions and a crew car.
I use a 496 like Joe and that little thing is great. It gives me weather, xm radio, the AOPA airport directory (which is great when looking for an airport with food or hotel close) and all the public and private airports.
Have fun!
nkh
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Nathan K. Hammond
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Thanks
Sean is the name............I am also a Challenger driver. I have a 496 and all the time in the world...(or my Vacation).Thanks to all of you. I will be keeping you guys informed of my journey, keep all the good stuff coming..
Sean
Capair
Sean
Capair
Fractional
Joea did you work with a fractional?
Nathan,
The 604 I fly now for a living is fair in the cockpit, with Collins 5000 series glass. The 605 I instruct in has the Collins ProLine 21 in them, and $200,000 would get you only one of the FMS units. Its very advanced and even displays the SID's, STARS and approach's on the massive LCD MFD screens, and moving maps on the taxiways, so is very nice. Have to say that I always carry a handheld backup GPS on long overwater trips "just in case" the front end gets dark.
Sean,
I flew for Bombardier (as well as a couple of airlines from time to time) until the "nut cutting" began 3 weeks after 9/11 but now am the cp of a part 91 ops in SoCal for a private company and live in Phoenix.
Just had a thought... are you the person who Earl King used to always say "wrote a book?" If so we know each other! Thought you lived in Dallas or did you move East?
The flight you are taking is just about the same thing that I did last September from Ohio to Arizona. 1800 miles in 3 days and never got over 4000 ft agl and was usually about 1000 above the ground. Had not flown a cross country in a small airplane in eons (but had more Atlantic/Pacific crossings than I could count) and was really concerned about all of the things involved that you are wondering about. Advise above still is pretty good and your homework beforehand means a lot. Here is more on my flight http://joea.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2790
Also go to www.airnav/com like Nate says. It will also show you places that have mogas (automotive fuel that is usually 1/3 cheaper) and so on. Here you can get all the info you need on each airport, AND if you find one that works but need other options, look at the bottom of each airport page and there will be 4-5 of the closest airports and a link to them. I really liked flying in and out of uncontrolled fields, with no tower and no hassle. Just drop in and get some fuel and get going again. Also has current weather on the right side of the page. For each days flight I would keep the destinations on a tabbed browser open and refresh them before leaving the hotel, thus getting current weather and TAF's. If you have a 496 then its a moot point as you can get up to date WX enroute with the XM.
Regarding the annual on the Champ, pls make sure that you get someone who knows "dope and fabric" airplanes and is impartial, in other words not a "ringer" for the seller. Big items on an annual like this other than the engine will be the fabric and condition of the airplane in the tailcone area. Have the tail cone area checked very well for rust and make sure that the wood formers/stringers are in good shape. Bottoms of the tubing, especially in the rear of the bird are where rust will show up if its there. If you want an "annual checklist" for a Champ let me know and can email you one.
Joe A
PS if this is who I think it is, you know that Steve Niescur owns a Citabria? He does not tell many people but he is an old taildragger fan just like we are.
The 604 I fly now for a living is fair in the cockpit, with Collins 5000 series glass. The 605 I instruct in has the Collins ProLine 21 in them, and $200,000 would get you only one of the FMS units. Its very advanced and even displays the SID's, STARS and approach's on the massive LCD MFD screens, and moving maps on the taxiways, so is very nice. Have to say that I always carry a handheld backup GPS on long overwater trips "just in case" the front end gets dark.
Sean,
I flew for Bombardier (as well as a couple of airlines from time to time) until the "nut cutting" began 3 weeks after 9/11 but now am the cp of a part 91 ops in SoCal for a private company and live in Phoenix.
Just had a thought... are you the person who Earl King used to always say "wrote a book?" If so we know each other! Thought you lived in Dallas or did you move East?
The flight you are taking is just about the same thing that I did last September from Ohio to Arizona. 1800 miles in 3 days and never got over 4000 ft agl and was usually about 1000 above the ground. Had not flown a cross country in a small airplane in eons (but had more Atlantic/Pacific crossings than I could count) and was really concerned about all of the things involved that you are wondering about. Advise above still is pretty good and your homework beforehand means a lot. Here is more on my flight http://joea.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2790
Also go to www.airnav/com like Nate says. It will also show you places that have mogas (automotive fuel that is usually 1/3 cheaper) and so on. Here you can get all the info you need on each airport, AND if you find one that works but need other options, look at the bottom of each airport page and there will be 4-5 of the closest airports and a link to them. I really liked flying in and out of uncontrolled fields, with no tower and no hassle. Just drop in and get some fuel and get going again. Also has current weather on the right side of the page. For each days flight I would keep the destinations on a tabbed browser open and refresh them before leaving the hotel, thus getting current weather and TAF's. If you have a 496 then its a moot point as you can get up to date WX enroute with the XM.
Regarding the annual on the Champ, pls make sure that you get someone who knows "dope and fabric" airplanes and is impartial, in other words not a "ringer" for the seller. Big items on an annual like this other than the engine will be the fabric and condition of the airplane in the tailcone area. Have the tail cone area checked very well for rust and make sure that the wood formers/stringers are in good shape. Bottoms of the tubing, especially in the rear of the bird are where rust will show up if its there. If you want an "annual checklist" for a Champ let me know and can email you one.
Joe A
PS if this is who I think it is, you know that Steve Niescur owns a Citabria? He does not tell many people but he is an old taildragger fan just like we are.